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Contents
23/04/99 Vision for the future
26/04/99 Comments by E-Mail
03/06/99 Stonehenge Lunacy
03/06/99 Snarl ups protest warning
04/06/99 Visitor Centre Project
04/06/99 Letter about plans
10/06/99 Amesbury Unites
11/06/99 To Site Management
17/06/99 No room for error
17/06/99 It would be folly
17/06/99 Nightmare could end
17/06/99 Not such a great idea
21/06/99 English Heritage letter
01/07/99 Flyover bypass
01/07/99 Sir Jocelyn's vision
01/07/99 Residents in the dark
08/07/99 Stones anger
15/07/99 Traffic chaos
15/07/99 Flyover may be favourite
20/07/99 Stop Press (Archive #1)
20/07/99 Letter to Chris Smith MP
22/07/99 Confusion reigns
27/09/99 Letter to Sir Jocelyn Stevens
14/10/99 Amesbury's hand forced
14/10/99 Losing Faith in Democracy
14/10/99 Letter to Salisbury Journal
21/10/99 Meeting notes - 21st Oct
21/10/99 A long way to go
21/10/99 Plan faces two hurdles
21/10/99 Comments of the CRRG
26/10/99 Amesbury clears the air!
26/10/99 Meeting notes - 26th Oct
28/10/99 Flyover will be built
13/07/00 Double Landmark
28/03/01 Proposal: pt1
15/03/01 New Stones Group Meets
05/04/01 Proposal: pt2
22/05/01 Proposal: pt3
18/06/01 Stones plan must be rethought
04/08/02 Stonehenge lifts a drivers spirits
11/08/02 Stonehenge does not need a tunnel
03/10/02 Eleventh Hour Bid
10/10/03 Benefits in Parker Plan
13/02/03 Residents Air Concerns
06/03/03 Journal Front Page Article
01/05/03 SDC to examine Parker Plan

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We publish to our Web site any literature that helps the cause. Either E-mails, letters, magazine or newspaper reports and journals. We would appreciate your comments.
Please use the Have Your Say section. Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We publish to our Web site any literature that helps the cause. Either E-mails, letters, magazine or newspaper reports and journals. We would appreciate your comments.
Please use the Have Your Say section. Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We publish to our Web site any literature that helps the cause. Either E-mails, letters, magazine or newspaper reports and journals. We would appreciate your comments.
Please use the Have Your Say section. Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We publish to our Web site any literature that helps the cause. Either E-mails, letters, magazine or newspaper reports and journals. We would appreciate your comments.
Please use the Have Your Say section. Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stevens has a vision for the future of Stonehenge
By David Mann - Eastern Gazette Interactive News - 23/04/99

Culture Secretary Chris Smith today announced that Sir Joceyln Stevens will continue as chairman of the executive group coordinating the Stonehenge project after he leaves English Heritage next year.

Sir Joceyln's eight-year reign as chairman of English Heritage comes to an end at the end of March 2000. Recently, he caused a storm of controversy in the GLA building selection race when he branded Will Alsop's plans for Victoria House as "fundamentally flawed".

His comments initially caused Blackfriars Investments to pull the Bloomsbury Square scheme from the running. Although Blackfriars subsequently re-entered the race, the Foster-designed London Bridge City scheme won.

Chris Smith said : "Jocelyn Stevens has made a magnificent contribution to our built heritage in many ways during his time as Chairman of English Heritage. He has displayed particular tenacity and enthusiasm for solving the long-standing problems which have dogged the setting and presentation of Stonehenge".

Welcoming this announcement, Sir Jocelyn Stevens said : "I am absolutely thrilled to have been offered the opportunity of pushing the Stonehenge Master Plan along - nothing could suit me more".

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Comment sent in by E-Mail:
Roger D Nelson FRICS, IRRV - Reigate, Surrey - 26/04/99

The additional traffic generated at the Countess Farm roundabout A303/A345 will be well beyond the capabilities of the existing road system as well as ruining the amenity of the local residents in the area. There is already a service station, a Travelodge and Burger King and permission for an out of town supermarket was refused I believe on appeal. The anticipated traffic from the visitors centre and park and ride would far exceed anything considered to date, let alone take account of the growth in use over the years.

Do we really think that the proposed park and ride system will work? My experience is that visitors want to get as close to the monument as possible before they leave their cars, it is a fact of human nature. This is why I believe that any centre, car and coach park should be located together nearer Stonehenge itself. Surely sympathetic and imaginative treatment of the development would assist. How about a part sunken centre with a similar feature to a barrow with a viewing gallery overlooking the monument?

On the other hand the existing 2 way stretch of the A 303 is a bottleneck particularly in any holiday period. Making this into a dual carriageway is most welcome as well as the proposals to tunnel in the stretch past Stonehenge. I also applaud the closing of the other road past the monument from which access to the existing car park is made.

My opinion is based on personal experience over many years. I was brought up adjacent to the proposed centre to where I often return although I have lived elsewhere and have been in Surrey for the last 20 years.

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Stonehenge lunacy
Jane Du Pre, 103 Countess Road, Amesbury - 03/06/99

As many people will be aware, some members of the Countess Road Residents Group handed out thousands of leaflets to vehicles caught up in the Bank Holiday tailbacks on the A303 and Countess Road roundabout on Saturday.

The purpose of these leaflets was to emphasise the sheer lunacy of English Heritage's proposal - namely to site the new Stonehenge visitor centre adjacent to the Countess Road roundabout, with all vehicles leaving the centre on to Countess Road.

Equally staggering is their plan that the fly-over at Countess roundabout should not be built until three years after the new centre is opened.

Remember that the only way to get to the stones will be by going to the centre both before and after your visit. English Heritage must be made to understand the absurdity of their plan.

Many people offered their support on Saturday. Please write to English Heritage at : Major Projects Team, 23 Savile Row, London WX1 1AB - or to me.

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Stonehenge Visitor Centre Project: - 04/06/99
A Welcome aboard the Stonehenge experience tour

The project involves improvements to the A303, one of the main routes to the West Country, which passes Stonehenge, and the provision of a new, greatly enhanced, visitor centre. We agree in principle with the aims of the project - the A303 becomes grid-locked here during the summer period - and the present visitor facilities at Stonehenge have not been noticeably improved during English Heritage's 14 or so years of guardianship.
What we do object to is the way English Heritage is bulldozing its way with a project that is likely to blight the lives of those living in close proximity to it.
Yes, this is a case of 'NIMBY', but the possibility of a leisure complex comparable to a major theme park literally up to the edge of one's garden, and the destruction of a river environment of considerable natural beauty, fills us with despair.

English Heritage seems only to want 'the best heritage visitor centre in the world' regardless of where it might trample in the process.
This seems to be reflected in its publicity material, in which facilities and locations are presumed regardless of the planning and enquiry processes that remain to be addressed. Local authorities seem to be viewed as mere pawns in a game.

Siting the visitor centre at Countess East roundabout (the junction of the A303 and A345) seems to us to be the worst possible solution in terms of traffic congestion and noise. This junction is already grid locked during the summer period.
It is estimated that the centre will produce a 4-fold increase in visitor traffic at the roundabout. A grade-separated junction is proposed, with a flyover for the A303.
This will allow its traffic to proceed at full speed - with associated noise - to the disadvantage of the increased traffic on its feeder roads leading to and from the A345, the visitor centre and to the local town of Amesbury. The possibility of alternative siting for the visitor centre to the west of Stonehenge and the World Heritage Centre boundary, using a less sensitive archaeological area, has been totally ignored. A similar site, which would have avoided the added congestion, was approved by the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport; he was congratulated on the wisdom of his decision. Unfortunately, somehow he was 'got at' and produced New Labour's first but unheralded U-turn, approving the Countess site he had earlier discounted.

A free shuttle service is proposed, to take visitors from the centre to a drop-off point nearer to the monument - a round trip of about 16km. The last part of the journey to reach the stones requires a walk of about 1.5km each way - supposedly a 20minute walk each way. At present, coaches allow about 40 minutes for visiting Stonehenge; with the new visitor centre in place, a visit is likely to need a minimum of half a day.

The ability of visitors to roam freely and unrestricted over a natural down land landscape is featured. One envisages endless unfenced hectares of rolling down land rich it its natural gorse, scrub and trees. The reality appears more likely to be 'farming as usual' with ploughing, fences, and all the current restrictions of private land ownership. Some of the more remote archaeological sites will not be accessible without specific permission from landowners - unlikely for the visitor not familiar with the locale. Removal of roads in the vicinity of Stonehenge is one of the aims, and this will include tunnelling of the A303 tunnel past the monument, using the most environmentally and archaeologically damaging method of 'cut and cover', rather than boring.

In creating all this, English Heritage declares that it is promoting a safe natural habitat for birds, insects, butterflies, flowers and plants. It doesn't say that it is also destroying an identical habitat in order to build its visitor centre. A superb and unspoiled river landscape, part of an Area of Special Archaeological Significance, and including an Area of High Ecological Value, with historic water-meadows, archaeology and ancient hedges, will be swept away.

We are pleased to note that we are not the only organisation lacking in enthusiasm for the proposals; others much more influential seem to share our views. However, we do feel ourselves to be in a 'David and Goliath' situation.
We are only a small group of ordinary local people who will have to live with this monster on our doorstep long after everyone else involved has moved on. Something that does concern us is the speed with which English Heritage seems to be pushing this project along - to the extent that we wonder if there is some hidden agenda.

We notice, for instance, that in the proposals put forward by the Tussauds Group for the Stonehenge Millennium Park, the programme shows a 'Grand Opening' by Lord Stevens of Stonehenge. Could this be the clue to all the haste....?

We want to try and ensure that our modest environment is not ruined and the existing traffic problems for others are not compounded.

We have no funds to put up a fight, and we have no expertise to equal the professionals that will be employed to fight every objection.

We would welcome some similar help.

Peter Goodhugh
Countess Road Residents Group, Amesbury.

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Letter from Mrs Ann Rudkin. Group Co-ordinator: - 04/06/99
Dear Sir,

We refer to an advertisement in your paper dated 28 April 1999 seeking tenders for The Stonehenge Visitors Centre by DTZ on behalf of English Heritage. We believe that you may be interested in, and even sympathetic to, the point of view of local residents who feel that the site of the proposed new Visitors Centre will, ultimately, prove totally unsuitable because of the extreme traffic problems that would result.

The main road through this area is the A303 which is a part of a designated European Trunk Route from Dover to the West, and Countess Roundabout, adjacent to which the English Heritage proposed to site the new Visitors Centre, is the first roundabout on this westbound route which carried 31,000 vehicles a day.

It is at this roundabout that severe congestion occurs at weekends and, particularly, at Bank Holidays. The proposed Visitors Centre will empty 1.8 million visitors onto the A345 and from there onto the roundabout.

We have made representations to the Prime Minister, the Deputy Prime Minister, the Minister for Culture, Media and Sport, and the Ministry of Transport and Regions. The Chair of English Heritage knows of our concerns but chooses to ignore them.

We are sufficiently concerned to have had a demonstration on the A303 on Saturday 29th June when traffic was at a virtual standstill for several miles. I enclose a sample of the 2000 leaflets that we handed to drivers.  

We feel that Commercial Operators, who may consider the Tender Offer, should be aware, as soon as possible, of the problems.

Yours faithfully, Mrs Ann Rudkin. Group Co-ordinator

Copies to : Rt. Hon John Prescott Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for the Regions and Transport Rt. Hon Chris Smith Minister of Culture, Media and Sport.

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Amesbury unites in strong protest
Salisbury Journal 10/06/99

AMESBURY risks being used to "rubber-stamp London's lunatic ideas for Stonehenge" unless it sticks up for itself, one of its councillors has warned. John Turner said that plans to site the new visitor complex at Countess East were being pushed ahead by London-based bureaucrats with no understanding of the area.

Maj Turner, who represents the town council on the Stonehenge steering group, won his fellow councillors' backing for a letter of protest against the plans. The letter, which will be sent to Chris Smith, the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, suggests that the visitor centre should be at Countess Farm. Maj Turner said : "We now have a timetable for the new visitor centre and the A 303 trunk road improvements showing the opening of the new visitor centre in 2003 with construction on the road starting in 2005 and continuing until 2008. "There could not be a more compelling argument for using Countess Farm and thus reducing the use of a bus shuttle to Fargo North, the more so as the round trip time has been estimated at 35 minutes - on a good day."

The land at Countess Farm, which lies within the World Heritage Site, has recently been acquired by the National Trust. Development on the land would be possible as long as the design of the building was not intrusive.

Welcoming Maj Turner's conclusions, Cllr Vernon Smith said : "Moving the visitor centre makes an awful lot of sense from a traffic management point of view. It would be a terrific advance". But other councillors questioned whether the town council could wield enough influence to persuade London to change the Stonehenge master plan. Cllr Jan Swindlehurst said : "We only have one stab at this it needs to be right first time. We need to keep stirring."

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Proposed Stonehenge Visitor Centre at Countess East
Letter to Lady Gass - Chair, Stonehenge World Heritage Site Management Group - 11/06/99

I am writing to you on behalf of the Countess Road Residents' Group (CRRG) to express our concerns about the siting and detail of the proposed Visitor Centre and the lack of discussion on these matters at Management Group or Topic Discussion Group meetings. We feel that the concerns of ourselves and others should be addressed without undue delay. It's probably too late for the meeting on 16 June, the agenda etc. having already been set, but a special meeting very soon after would be appropriate.

The overall project involves improvements to the A 303 and the provision of a new, greatly enhanced, visitor centre. We agree in principle with the aims of the project - the A 303 becomes 'gridlocked' here during the summer period - and the present visitor facilities at Stonehenge have not been noticeably improved during English Heritage's 14 or so years of guardianship. What we do object to is the way English Heritage is bulldozing its way with a project that is likely to blight the lives of those living in close proximity to the visitor centre. Yes, this is a case of 'NIMBY', but the possibility of a 'leisure complex' comparable to a major theme park literally up to the edge of one's garden, and the destruction of a river environment of considerable natural beauty, fills us with despair. English Heritage seems only to want "the best heritage visitor centre in the world" regardless of where it might trample in the process. This seems to be reflected in its publicity material in which facilities and locations are presumed regardless of the planning and enquiry processes which have yet to be addressed. Local authorities and inhabitants seem to be viewed as mere pawns in a game. For instance, to try and get a better insight into the proposal, we asked English Heritage for information on the detail made available to prospective commercial bidders; this was refused. We have also asked for information on the archaeology of the Countess East site; this has not been forthcoming.

Siting the visitor centre at Countess East roundabout (the junction of the A303 and A345) seems to us to be the worst possible solution in terms of traffic congestion, noise and general pollution. This junction is already gridlocked at times during the summer period. It is estimated that the centre will produce a four-fold increase in visitor traffic at the roundabout. A grade separated junction is proposed, with a flyover for the A303; this will allow its traffic to proceed at full speed - with associated noise - to the disadvantage of the increased traffic on its feeder roads leading to and from the A345, the visitor centre and to the local town of Amesbury. A site which would have avoided the added congestion was approved by the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport; he was congratulated on the wisdom of his decision. Unfortunately, somehow he was 'got at' and produced New Labour's first but unheralded U-turn, approving the Countess site he had earlier discounted.

A free shuttle service is proposed, to take visitors from the centre to a drop-off point nearer to the monument - a round trip of about 16 km. The last part of the journey to reach the stones requires a walk of about 1.5 km each way - supposedly a 20 minute walk each way. At present, coaches allow about 40 minutes for visiting Stonehenge. With the new visitor centre in place, a visit is likely to need a minimum of half a day.

The ability of visitors to roam freely and unrestricted over a natural downland landscape is featured. One envisages endless unfenced hectares of rolling downland rich it its natural gorse, scrub and trees. The reality appears more likely to be 'farming as usual' with ploughing, fences, and all the current restrictions of private land ownership. Some of the more remote archaeological sites will not be accessible without specific permission from landowners - unlikely for the visitor not familiar with the locale and with limited time. Removal of roads in the vicinity of Stonehenge is one of the aims, and this will include tunneling of the A303 tunnel past the monument, using the most environmentally and archaeologically damaging method of 'cut and cover', rather than boring.

In creating all this, English Heritage declares that it is promoting a safe natural habitat for birds, insects, butterflies, flowers and plants. It doesn't say that it is also destroying an identical habitat in order to build its visitor centre. A superb and unspoiled river landscape, part of an Area of Special Archaeological Significance, and including an Area of High Ecological Value, the historic watermeadows, archaeology and ancient hedges, will be swept away.

Alternative sites to Countess East have been suggested. For instance, Countess Farm on the western edge of the A345 would be appropriate for a scaled-down version of what is proposed, although this would not entirely deal with the traffic problem at the roundabout. A new proposed leisure area at Folly Bottom on the eastern edge of Amesbury would have the space for a full development. Additionally, a site to the west of Stonehenge and the World Heritage Centre boundary, using a less sensitive archaeological area could be considered; this would reduce the traffic problem on the A303 and provide a site closer to the monument, reducing the cost of tramways etc.

We are pleased to note that we are not the only organisation lacking enthusiasm for the proposal; others much more influential seem to share our views. However, we do feel ourselves to be in a 'David and Goliath' situation. We are only a small group of ordinary local people who will have to live with this monster on our doorstep long after everyone else involved has moved on. Something that does concern us is the speed with which English Heritage seems to be pushing this project along - to the extent that we wonder if there is some hidden agenda. We notice, for instance, that in the proposals put forward by Tussauds Group for the Stonehenge Millennium Park, the programme shows a "Grand Opening" by "Lord Stevens of Stonehenge". Could this, we wonder, the clue to all the haste Ö.?

We want to try and ensure that our modest environment is not ruined and the existing traffic problems for others are not compounded. We have no funds to put up a fight, and we have no expertise to equal the professionals that will no doubt be employed by English Heritage and others to fight every objection. We would welcome some similar help. Your help in arranging a meeting to discuss and resolve our concerns will be welcomed.

Yours sincerely,

Peter Goodhugh

cc : Dr Kate Fielden : Wiltshire Archaeological & Natural History Society Dagmar Junghams : English Nature Robert Key MP John Lodge : Amesbury Town Council Professor Richard Morris : CBA Rt Hon John Prescott MP John Samuel : Holly House Consultancy Richard Sheard : Salisbury District Council Rt Hon Chris Smith MP : Dept for Culture Media and Sport P Stevens : Salisbury Civic Society Geoff Wainwright : English Heritage Dominic Watkins : Chris Blandford Associates

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No room for errors over visitor centre
Letter to Salisbury Journal - Roy Dicker - Countess Road, Amesbury - 17/06/99

I must take issue with your concerning your article in last week's Journal which gave the impression that Amesbury Town Council, and John Turner in particular, are somehow championing the cause of Amesbury in respect of the siting of the Stonehenge visitor centre.

Amesbury Town Council, of which Mr Turner was a member at the time, supported English Heritage's Stonehenge Master Plan, which included the siting of the centre at Countess Road East, when it was presented to them as a planning brief some three years ago.

The fact is that the town council sold out the residents of Amesbury, and those in Countess Road in particular, in the hope that the scheme would bring about improvements to the layout of the Countess roundabout.

To portray Mr Turner as some sort of unifying figure is totally inaccurate. Mr Turner and his plan represents the views of no-one but himself and only serves to confuse the objections being raised by the community. His plan is no better than that proposed by English Heritage, since it will do nothing to solve the main issue - that of traffic congestion at the Countess roundabout.

The visitor centre needs to be sited at Fargo North or thereabouts. This is the site which received wide-spread public support when it was proposed just over a year ago. It is the site that Salisbury District Council, representing its population, should advocate in preference. The timetable for construction of the visitor centre at Countess East is dependent on Salisbury District Council granting planning permission. The Countess East scheme is contrary to the council's current ribbon development policy. If Salisbury DC genuinely represents the people who elect them, they will not be steamrollered by English Heritage into accepting their crazy scheme. Mr Turner would do well to listen to his electorate.

ROY DICKER Countess Road, Amesbury.

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It would be folly to use this site
Letter from Anne Rudkin - Countess Road, Amesbury - 17/06/99

The Stonehenge Visitor centre - why not Folly Bottom ?

I am encouraged by the Amesbury Town Council's plan to send a letter of protest to Chris Smith (Amesbury units in strong protest, Journal June 10). I wholeheartedly agree that it is lunacy to site the visitor centre at Countess East in view of the inevitable increase in traffic congestion at the roundabout and the adverse environmental impact on the residents of Countess Road.

However, the suggestion that the visitor centre should be at Countess Farm will surely do little to alleviate traffic congestion at Countess. As Cllr Jan Swindlehurst said "We only have one stab at this and it needs to be right first time.We need to keep stirring". In an effort to stir the pot an ensure that all viable alternatives are assessed, I would like to suggest that the proposed site for the visitor centre is simply moved a few hundred yards from the River Avon and accessed from the proposed new junction, which I understand is going to be built at Folly Bottom.

ANNE RUDKIN Countess Road, Amesbury.

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Nightmare could end
Letter from E.F. Thomas Durrington Car Sales, Amesbury. - 17/06/99

As a regular user of the Countess roundabout, I fully support the Countess Road Residents' Group's opposition to locating the Stonehenge visitor centre on the site known as Countess East. Countess roundabout is already a nightmare for commercial and private traffic and with an estimated 1.8 million visitors per annum, locating the visitor centre on the roundabout would only lead to even greater chaos.

I have recently heard that the Folly Bottom junction, which is only about 1 km distant, may well be improved to provide access to and from all directions - why shouldn't this be considered as a possible location for the Stonehenge visitor centre ? This is an important issue which will affect all locals and all businesses in Amesbury and we would all benefit from much greater local consultation.

E.F. Thomas Durrington Car Sales High Street Amesbury.

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Not such a great idea
Letter from Jane Du Pre - Countess Road, Amesbury. - 17/06/99

AMESBURY Town Council appears to be of the opinion that we all agree it would be a jolly good idea for the proposed Stonehenge Visitor Centre to be on the west side of Countess Road at Countess Farm, rather than on the east side. We don't.

The flow of traffic on the roundabout would be just as bad. Those living in the area would be equally adversely affected. This much-needed centre should be sited in an area such as Folly Bottom, where light industrial development and road infrastructure is planned and local residents will not have to live with the pollution and disruption created, or at Fargo North which, after all, was the site originally agreed upon by the Secretary of State, Chris Smith.

Jane Du Pre - Countess Road, Amesbury.

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Letter to Salisbury Journal from John Samuel. 21/06/99

The Countess Road Residents Group has just received a copy of the English Heritage/National Trust document entitled "The Commercial Opportunity - Stonehenge New Visitor Centre Information Pack". Here are two questions arising from just a cursory examination of the documents. We will have many others.

Projected visitor numbers are 1.8 million per annum in the information pack, yet the Traffic Impact Assessment that accompanies it is based on only 1 million. The difference is huge.

Question Which is the correct figure?

2. Details of the Visitor Shuttle Buses contained in the Traffic Impact Assessment indicate that (even for the 1 million visitor assumption) the frequency of the bus service with be every 2.5 to 3 minutes at peak periods. This represents 20 - 24 buses every hour in each direction.

Question: Has anyone really calculated the heavy additional load on Countess roundabout when one considers the slow moving nature of 60 and 75 seater buses. - with or without a fly-over? And what will be the impact with English Heritage's own estimate of 1.8 million visitors a year?

At last, and thankfully from their own documents, the absurdity of English Heritage's proposal to site the Visitor Centre at Countess roundabout is being revealed. It is hard to imagine any potential operator being remotely interested in such a flawed commercial opportunity. Even so, we must ensure that it is not inflicted on us through lack of awareness, or interest, or resistance, on our part.

Wake up Amesbury, it's NOT too late - YET!

Yours faithfully,

John Samuel, C.Eng, MICE, Dip TE Consultant to Countess Road Residents Group

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Flyover still a 'vital' part of stones bypass
By Rolan Batten - Salisbury Journal - 01/07/99

A FLYOVER across the Countess Road roundabout in Amesbury is not an option but a necessity.

This is the view of both Salisbury MP Robert Key and Amesbury Town Clerk John Lodge in the wake of the Transport Minister Lord Whitty's announcement on Friday about the Stonehenge bypass. Both are angry that Lord Whitty has put the flyover as one option to improve traffic conditions at the gridlocked roundabout but has firmly not made it a priority in the £130m A303 improvement project. The scheme includes the Stonehenge tunnelled bypass and the Winterbourne Stoke bypass, but does not stress the necessity for a By Roland Batten flyover at Countess roundabout. Lord Whitty unveiled details of the proposed new stretch of A303 dual carriageway past Stonehenge, the cut-and-cover tunnel, and the bypass route for Winterbourne Stoke which been given 'preferred route status'. Such a status will protect the route of the new road from future development while detailed plans are drawn up.

 

But his announcement brought an immediate response from Mr Key and Mr Lodge. Mr Key praised the Highways Agency for "listening to local people" and deciding to "nudge the Winterbourne Stoke bypass slightly to the north".

But he slammed the decision to make a flyover at Countess roundabout just one of the options to improve traffic conditions for local and through traffic. "It is imperative a flyover is built. It is essential for local people moving between Amesbury and Bulford" said Mr Key. He said that in April a firm of consulting engineers reported that it was clear a flyover is needed even if the Stonehenge Visitor's Centre is not built at Countess Road.

"We must now put pressure on Lord Whitty to provide the flyover. The quality of life for the people of Amesbury and the surrounding villages demands it. "I understand it is not just a question of money but requires an engineering solution". Mr Lodge said there was no question of whether a flyover could feasibly be built. "The space for the slip roads is already there and can be seen. The land is already protected and Amesbury Town Council has always understood a flyover could be built. It is a question of the will and the money. We will have to insist it is built." John Samuel, for the Countess Road Resident's Group said there was no commitment on the part of the Highways Agency that the grade separation of Countess will be part of the A303 improvement scheme.

"Regrettably the announcement on Friday by Lord Whitty of the preferred route status takes us no further forward. "Although the announcement made reference to improving the Countess roundabout for local and through traffic, there is no commitment to the form or timing of any improvement". Chairman of English Heritage Sir Jocelyn Stevens, who joined Lord Whitty for the announcement, said the proposals were an "acceptable and affordable" solution which recognised the "exceptional and environmental sensitivity of the Stonehenge World Heritage Site".

He said: "They combine the protection of the monument and the re-creation of the historic landscape with the much needed solution to the bottleneck on the A303". The 10.8 km route runs eastwards from the existing dual carriageway at Berwick Down to the north of Winterbourne Stoke avoiding a national nature reserve and a site of special scientific interest. It rejoins the line of the existing road on the approach to Stonehenge and has a to kilometre stretch by the stones hidden in a cut-and-cover tunnel eventually joining up with the Amesbury bypass.

 

A study in contrasts: queues on the A303 eastern approach to the Countess roundabout are shown in comparison with the few cars coming off.

 

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Sir Jocelyn's vision must be resisted
Letter from A.J. Munday - Countess Road, Amesbury. - 01/07/99
ONE of the biggest problems associated with the opposition of Amesbury residents to the proposed visitor centre is the apathy of so many who think that, since nothing has happened since the idea was first proposed so many years ago, "It will never happen".

They are deluding themselves by not realising how dedicated Sir Jocelyn Stevens, chair of English Heritage, is to having this monument to his memory built just where he wants it. His commitment to the Countess East site is because he think there is no better site for his grandiose schemes.

He is not concerned that the local roads cannot possibly cope with the traffic. He is not concerned that Countess Road residents will find a second Thorpe Park in an area of the Avon Valley which has been sensitively farmed for many years. This area of great beauty has, in my opinion, been deliberately excluded from the World Heritage site so that he could not be accused of making a mess in his own back garden. Sir Jocelyn is well aware that there are many sites suitable for a reasonable sized visitor centre and Amesbury people are the first to agree that the present situation is a disgrace.

No other site, however, gives him the space to build his Virtual Reality palace with associated retail outlets. This, he believes, will achieve his major objective which, on his own admission, is to have nobody visiting the Henge at all. I do not quarrel with this, but it can be achieved by a far smaller site nearer the stones from which they can view in the same time scale as at present, thus obviating the need for huge car parks.

The vast majority of visitors want five minutes' comfort break, ten minutes coffee break and two minutes to say "Aren't the stones impressive, let's take a photograph and go home". Sir Jocelyn's tunnel vision of the prospect that his visitor centre will be the pinnacle of his career with English Heritage deludes him into thinking that, if he bullies Amesbury residents sufficiently, we will go away or be too apathetic to resist. Sir, he is wrong.

A.J. Munday - Countess Road, Amesbury.

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Residents in the dark
N.J. SAMUEL Consultant to Countess Road Residents Group . - 01/07/99

Further to many recent letters in Postbag on the subject of the Stonehenge visitor centre and the proposal to site it at Countess East, readers may be interested to hear that an announcement on Friday by Lord Whitty, concerning improvement to the A303, leaves us all in exactly the same position as we always have been - in the dark! Far from clarifying the position in respect of the grade separation of Countess roundabout, a vital element of any visitor centre proposal, the announcement falls back on the same old ambiguities of "improving the Countess road roundabout, for local and through traffic".

What all residents of Amesbury and users of the A303 need to know is : exactly what form will the roundabout improvements take and exactly when will the improvements be implemented? Until we have unequivocal answers to these particular questions, all local residents should harbour the gravest doubts as to the consequences of implementing a scheme which will focus all visitor centre traffic on to this one, already overloaded, junction.

N.J. SAMUEL Consultant to Countess Road Residents Group .

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Stones site anger "will not go away"
By Katharine Lawley - Salisbury Journal - 08/07/99

OPPOSITION to Countess East as the site for the Stonehenge Visitor Centre will not go away - whatever the National Trust or English Heritage think. So says Durrington district councillor Judy Greville, who has reacted angrily to letters from the two bodies dismissing Amesbury Town council's bid to have the centre switched to Countess West.

The town council has urged Chris Smith, Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, to support its bid. It hopes to have another chance to press the point when Mr Smith visits the area on July 20, possibly with Roads Minister Lord Whitty.

The visitor centre is possibly the largest issue that the district council has had to deal with, with estimates putting the full value of the development at £135 million. But virtually identical letters from monument custodians English Heritage and landowners the National Trust dated June 30 and presented to the district's northern area committee last week are scathing of plans to change the centre's location.

English Heritage's letter said that it had "evaluated a number of potential visitor centre sites before selecting Countess East, which lies outside the World Heritage Site. This site forms part of the "master plan" which all the agencies involved have endorsed, it says.

The trust's letter repeated an earlier statement that owning land at Countess West would help it protect archaeology, restore sensitive areas to traditional pasture and provide visitors with access to King Barrows Ridge and the henge itself while helping to spread the pressure over the whole site. "Countess West could give some exciting opportunities to complement the master plan proposals for visitor access via park and ride to Fargo North drop-off point" it said. "The trust supports the Countess East site for the new centre and does not consider Countess West as an alternative."

Mrs. Greville, chairman of the northern area committee, said simply dismissing the bid was just not good enough. Councillors supported her call to seek support from the council's planning committee in demanding an explanation. She said there was great concern locally about the amount of extra traffic that would be generated by a Countess East visitor centre and the effect on Countess Road roundabout. "We would appreciate a full explanation as to why the Countess West site is unsuitable and has been dismissed" she said. "They talk about a five-year gap between the centre being finished and a flyover for Countess Road. There will be traffic chaos.

Councillors said they wanted the A303 dualled and a fly-over for Countess Road before anything else was done. "A planning application for the visitor centre is likely to be submitted to the council next spring.

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Stones visitor centre 'will lead to traffic chaos'
Salsibury Journal - 15/07/99

A CALL has been made by Salisbury councillors for more openness over plans for the multi-million pound Stonehenge visitor centre. English Heritage is aiming to build the complex on the Countess East site at Amesbury, which has outraged locals who say it will add to traffic chaos. Now district councillors are to seek assurances over measures needed to cope with traffic problems.

They are to ask that the visitor centre is not opened until a flyover and other road improvements are in place on the A303/345 Countess roundabout. They will also call on English Heritage to be more open and explain why it ruled out Countess West on the opposite side of the road as a site for the new centre. The moves are in line with action sought by the council's northern area committee, which covers the Amesbury district.

Northern area chairman Cllr Judy Greville said there had been talk of a possible five year gap between work finishing on the visitor centre and the flyover and other highway proposals coming into place. She said this would add to the chaotic weekend conditions which exist on the Countess roundabout during the height of the summer holiday season.

Mrs Greville said residents were already worried about the extra traffic that will be generated on the roundabout it plans for the Countess East site went ahead. "It is estimated that 60 per cent of traffic coming down the A303 from London is heading to the West Country and most of the rest to Stonehenge," she said. "If the visitor centre was sited at Countess East, it will mean Stonehenge traffic coming down to the roundabout in the queues and then having to double back round it into the centre. "And on top of that we will have buses taking people from the visitor centre to the stones every three minutes havng to keep going round the roundabout. It will be an absolute nightmare."

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Flyover may be favourite - 15/07/99
YOUR coverage (July 1) of the protection of the route for the A303 improvement at Stonehenge and Winterbourne Stoke, while welcome, did not fully explain the situation which follows the decision to add to the scheme an improvement for Countess Road roundabout.

You requested information from the Highways Agency in the light of concerns expressed to you about Countess roundabout but, regretfully, you did not use this. The information given to you was that two options for improving the roundabout are under consideration and, on the basis of analysis to date, a flyover appears the better option.

Before a final decision can be taken, detailed design and environmental assessments are needed and the overall scheme is subject to statutory procedures. I am anxious that local people should understand the current position.

For the avoidance of any doubt, both Countess and Stonehenge have a high priority and are being taken forward together.

ED BRADLEY - Project Manager - Highways Agency
(A303 Stonehenge & Winterbourne Stoke Improvement).

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STOP PRESS
At 11.30 a.m. on Tuesday 20th July 1999 members of the Group attended a meeting at Antrobus House, Amesbury, with the Secretary of State to Culture, Media and Sport, the Rt. Hon. Chris Smith MP, accompanied by Sir Jocelyn Stevens - Chairman of English Heritage.

The meeting was called by the Secretary of State in order to discuss with representatives of the local authorities and the local community, progress on the development of the Stonehenge World Heritage Site, including the new Visitor Centre facilities and the routing of the A303.

After the close of the meeting the Group members handed the Secretary of State a letter setting out their concerns with the planning procedures, the decision to locate the Visitor Centre at Countess East, and the failure of the authorities to make any commitment to the implementation and timing of a grade separated improvement to Countess roundabout.

The meeting was told that a new planning brief would be considered by the Salisbury DC Northern area planning committee on the 23rd September and public consultation on the brief will precede the Committee decision.

The timetable for the Private Finance Invitation was discussed and the meeting informed that nine PFI bids would be shortlisted in September, and the chosen partner selected in December. It was stated that until Salisbury DC have endorsed the revised planning brief no PFI partner would be appointed. It is anticipated that the chosen PFI partner will submit a planning application in the summer of year 2000 and that a public enquiry might be held at the end of year 2000.

Sir Jocelyn Stevens said that both Countess East and Countess West sites would be factually assessed and the results discussed. There were said to be problems with Countess West in both access management, and in terms of development on part of the World Heritage Site.

Representatives of the Highways Agency said that they are currently appointing engineering consultants to develop the A303 preferred route scheme announced by Lord Whitty earlier this month. A likely start date for the scheme was 2005. No commitment was given however as to the form that the Countess roundabout's improvement, or to the timing of such improvement. It was said that grade separation of the roundabout was the preferred option, but that the new consultant would be asked to look at the issue of an interim improvement.

During a "questions and answer" session at the end of the meeting, the Secretary of State revealed, following a question from CRRG, that when the planning application for the Visitor Centre was submitted, there would be assessments of other site options and reasons for the final choice given.

At the close of the meeting, the Secretary of State was handed a letter, by representatives of CRRG, in which the concerns of the group were described together with a plea for consideration of all viable site locations.

The Group has now established a website on the Internet (address : www.stonehenge-crrg.org.uk) and a copy of the letter to the Secretary of State may be seen on this site.

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Amesbury Journal 10 Oct 2002

Many benefits in Parker Plan for Stonehenge

AT last! A public airing in last week's Journal of the Parker Plan for Stonehenge, which cannot he ignored by our district council.

Amongst other benefits, it would provide a new visitor centre for Stonehenge, obviate the need for a flyover at Countess roundabout and provide the Salisbury bypass link that has been awaited for so many years.

Now that the National Trust is pushing for a bored tunnel at a cost of around £350m, surely this visionary and all-embracing solution, which could he achieved at a fraction of the cost, must be considered.

GEORGE DU PRE,

Countess Road Amesbury